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Off The Record with Matt Pask and Lee Griffiths

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Oct 16, 2026 40 min

Best friends and business partners for 22 years. Matt Pask and Lee Griffiths of Streamline Recruitment on surviving 2008 and the friendship behind it.

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Off The Record with Matt Pask and Lee Griffiths
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Off The Record with Matt Pask and Lee Griffiths

with Matt Pask and Lee Griffiths

Oct 16, 2026 40 min

Best friends and business partners for 22 years. Matt Pask and Lee Griffiths of Streamline Recruitment on surviving 2008 and the friendship behind it.

Off The Record with Bill Jackson
Episode 5

Off The Record with Bill Jackson

with Bill Jackson

Oct 29, 2026 30 min

Bill Jackson wrote "become a director within ten years" on a post-it in a work van. He did it in four, then launched Altitude Recruitment in Guernsey.

Off The Record with Jason Kilbride
Episode 4

Off The Record with Jason Kilbride

with Jason Kilbride

Sep 4, 2026 38 min

Jason Kilbride joined Henderson Brown as a second choice hire and bought the business 13 years later. The buyout conversation, the day one he nearly walked out, why headcount is vanity, and where AI leaves the human side of recruitment.

Off The Record with Jen Kinnear
Episode 3

Off The Record with Jen Kinnear

with Jen Kinnear

Jul 6, 2026 31 min

Jen Kinnear on keeping people seven plus years in an industry famous for churn, the BD bet she refused to abandon as the market fell, succession from a founder, and the AI conversation nobody in recruitment leadership is having.

Off The Record with Ludwig Schreiber
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Off The Record with Ludwig Schreiber

with Ludwig Schreiber

May 5, 2026 33 min

Ludwig Schreiber on the shift from running marketing tactics to leading global strategy, the simple branding move that earned his CEO's trust, and where AI in recruitment marketing actually delivers value.

Off The Record with Andy Hallett
Episode 1

Off The Record with Andy Hallett

with Andy Hallett

Feb 24, 2026 37 min

Andy Hallett on 25 years at SThree, founding Recspand, building RecWired, and what it actually takes to scale a recruitment agency.

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